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    Decline in lyrical skill in hip hop (26 posts)

  • Avatar Image Tony said 7 months, 2 weeks ago:

    A big C'MON SON to the skill level of hip hop artists in todays industry. Besides believing that I am better then some of the rappers out now, I have seen a big drop off in lyrical prowess in the rap game today. Guys like Lupe Fiasco, Eminem, Jada, and some others try to keep the art alive, there are dudes like Plies, Young Berg, and Soulja Boy who decide that a tough beat and a catchy dance or hook is enough to get money. like Jada said "ringtones blowin the doors off of album sales." As an aspiring artist myself, I pride myself in taking time and thought and energy into what it is Im going to say on a track. Kool G Rap, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Big Punisher, The Notorious B.I.G….these are just some of the greatest. There are still more that I don't want to mention because I'd be here all day (Redman, ALL OF WUTANG, EPMD). My point is this: Lets try and bring lyricism back into the Rap Game.

    If you got an opinion or just some bars you want to post, be my guest. If not GETDAFUCKOUTTAHEREWITDATWEAKSHIT SON!!!!!!!!!

  • Avatar Image DunnaMang said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Dunna co-signs this.

  • Avatar Image Priest said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I feel ya on this dawg,but not to worry,the voice for the streets is coming in 2010

    1 Man, With 1 Mic, Going In On One Racist Government

  • Avatar Image Brooklyn Born Diva said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    i def agree, i have never claimed to be the next great female MC, to be honest ima singer through and throught but wit the state of women MCs i think i might have to change my music approach. i understand that hip hop is a male dominated system and if as a woman u get in wit a bunch of men and they bring u up then thats a good thing but to think that all u need to do is associate wit the males then u are highly mistaken. to be honest artist like nicki minaj make me upset. its like they talk but wat are they really talking about. hasnt the world of hip hop shed enough tears, especially after the "BET Hip Hop Awards" i have begun to look at hip hop and ask myself where has all the talent gone and can we bring it back, till then i will be objectified to listen to hip hop die further…in the words of chris rock, "i love hip hop, im just tired of defending it"

  • Avatar Image Dow Jones said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Hey to reiterate Common's lyrics on his love for Hip Hop and the state of where it's gone the last decade.

    Thank God I still got my man KRS1 to keep me sane sometimes.

  • Avatar Image Tony said 7 months ago:

    @Brooklyn Born Diva: I respect your opinion a lot and I do agree wit you about female MC's in the game. you really dont hear a lot about great female MC's anymore. I really dont listen to Nicki Manaj that much but I do see your point.

    @Dow Jones: Word Up

  • Avatar Image venja said 7 months ago:

    Preach people!!!

    The sad thing is that the "message" no longer seems to be important.
    even at the beginning of Hip hop people were able to "party and bullshit" without sounding like 5 yr olds. I have no problem with party jams but
    A) at least be able to ride the beat
    B) have a vocabulary
    C) respect their art form and stop pimping it for cash.

    It's the laziness that really gets on my nerves tho, no commitment to their own lyrics SMH
    why the hell would I believe what your saying, when you dont.

    I could be here for days so.. let me stop…. rant over

  • Avatar Image Legrand The Professional said 7 months ago:

    I couldn't agree with you more (all of you), so I have personally made the committment to continue to deliver the best quality hip hop in my recordings and performances. Thanks for keeping me grounded and let's keep the hip hop moving forward.

    Legrand
    "The Professional"

    Let me know if I am on the right track here:

    http://www.reverbnation.com/legrand

  • Avatar Image Erasin said 7 months ago:

    Its the consumer that drives the trends. We have some lyrical emcees still in the game, we just don't buy there stuff therefore they don't get played

  • Avatar Image Tony said 6 months, 4 weeks ago:

    To everyone agreeing here, Imma start a new thread where u can put ur a few bars up….your best or just something u came up with. Look for it " A quick 16, holla if you got it"

  • Avatar Image Da Bodega Show said 6 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Noob here chiming in but on the real, the good "REAL" stuff is still out there, the problem is that radio is not breaking records like that anymore (maybe a DJ will on a mix…MAYBE) and we now damn well that the BET's, MTV's, ect. are not. The music is out there but it has to be looked for. The days of gold and platinum sales are rare and that's why when dudes like Wayne hit the mark it's such a HUGE deal while if an album makes 100k sales it's considered a success.
    We can try to change this but we are likely too far down the road for it to be changed by just us alone…"thing have to get worse before they get better". I just look at it like there are too many MC's out there that refuse to stop regardless of album sales that keep it lyrical (Joell Ortiz, Royce Da 5'9, Tanya Morgan, Termanology, Masta Ace, ect.) that the good lyrical stuff will remain, just for now it has went back to where it came from…grass roots or underground.
    If things do go in cycles, they hopefully, it will come back around this decade.

    http://www.BlogTalkRadio.com/DaBodega

  • Avatar Image Trebster said 6 months, 3 weeks ago:

    lemme start by saying im not dissing any region of the country. there are wack jokers everywhere. rap/hiphop in a lot of ways has become a victim of its own success. i like to call it the "jordan effect." you see our music and our culture was always a medium for both entertainment and education. skills was always the standard. the gansta rap movement changed the game just as mj did in bball. it opened the country's eyes to a segment of our community that was for so long ignored. while our west coast brothers were making their mark, their stories served as cautionary tales just as a lot of the stories emcee's told, but somewhere it got twisted, just like everybody wanted to be like mike, now everyone wanted to be gangsta just for being gangsta's sake. hiphop just like the black experience, is made up of different hues of the same color. we are all not from the hood, we all dont gangbang and trap, and we are all not impressed by the bling and circumstance that comes with fame. that message needs to come back to the game. rappers back in the day spoke to issues that were important to all black america not just the hood or even the hiphop community. we have a generation now that actually believes rap/hiphop started with biggie and pac. to me that is sad, because while they are two of our greatest, there are brothers and sistas who put it down hard before they came on the scene. i think of "self destruction" and "were all in the same gang" not just because they were stop the violence anthems, but because it showcased some of rap/hiphop's best talent from the east and the west. now that the south has emerged from the shadows, its important that we do not forget that a true emcee is someone who has something to say, we have them from all corners of the globe, not just the us, if not we will continue to have what we have today alot of folks "talkin loud, but aint sayin nothin." i will never hate on those getting money, but at the end of the day, can you look in the mirror and know that you contributed something to this rich culture of ours, or did you just do like the majority in power does and exploit our culture for personal gain. there are many things to talk about in our world other than money, cars, clothes, jewels, the hood, the trap, and the block. get yo paper boo boo, but grow while youre doing it and dont become a 21st cen minstrel show. help our youth see a better way, by your actions, help these hoods and traps and blocks you repping so hard, because to me, a gansta and a rapper dont mix, you gotta be one or the other. be hard, militant, rebellious, etc. but point it towards the system that keeps us in a cycle of poverty, ignorance, and despair like our forefathers and mothers did. if not you just another nigga with a mike wasting time. cee-lo said it best: "the fact is, you aint a nigga because you black, you a nigga cause how you act"!

  • Avatar Image VERNON DAVIS said 6 months, 3 weeks ago:

    this is why i appreciate a dude like j.r. writer his freestyles r sick u can enjoy his play on words, where these simpleton new cats dont give u anything to think about

  • Avatar Image Joe said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Gucci Mane & Soulja Boy are killing hip-hop! nuff said

  • Avatar Image Justin Gray said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    ^^^ true fact. and its sad when i play nas, who is my favorite rapper, and people in the car or around the house dont like it cuz its not about gang bangin, sellin drugs, or smokin weed.